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September 30th, 2012


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11:17 am - The last Doctor Who post for a while
So the last episode with the Ponds happened, and fandom was very... fandom about it.

As was I, with an added dash of lack of sleep, since someone yinake kept me awake on MSN talking about random stupid music and Game of Thrones and Code Geass and what if the Code Geass characters were part of Game of Thrones.

Yes, so, spoilers!

To get it out of the way first, yes I cried. Not the pretty crying either. I'd heard enough rumours to predict seeing old!Rory die, and was surprised that didn't get me, but then Amy and Rory jumping off the building - or more Amy trying to talk Rory down, and then the Doctor's reaction to it all - and bam, tears. And then the bit at the ending when Amy makes her choice, and the message she leaves for the Doctor.

Tears all over the place. But I suppose it's always been reactions rather death itself that get me.

I will say that I liked that this was a case because of choices made by the companions, rather than sad because of things happening to them, ala getting sucked into another world, or Donna's fate which still skeeves me. It's a choice that causes the Doctor (and others) pain, but it's a choice not just a random whim of chance. I suppose Rory was the random whim of chance one.

I liked the whole Noir vibe, and if it had been any other episode I could have done with it some more (maybe do a whole Noir episode set in L.A. or Chicago or something), but I really liked the metaness of it all - of course it's all about stories, and the way they end, Amy's been fairytale from the start. So of course the story they are reading isn't just true but it talks back to them and they become part of it. And while the Doctor hates endings, and hates that these things stop, he forgets that endings also mean resolution. It's a chance to know that in spite of everything, Amy ended up happy with a non-ruined life, and a way to say goodbye to Amy as her first knew her.

And I have noticed that "The Doctor (and sometimes River) tells Brian what happened" has become a veritable fic genre unto itself. I figure before long Pond Life in New York will pop up there, too. Personally I'm head-canoning that after editing the Melody Malone books, Amy ends up writing some more for the series, and then creating her own books and stories to tell. It seems right to me.

Oh, River, not mentioned her much yet. The Doctor was so, so into her this episode, even when she was a fictonal character, it was terribly amusing. But it was good she was there, to be with her parents for a bit, and to comfort the Doctor at the end - though I do like that she basically said "Not always, hun, I have my own life and things to do." Vaguely curious if timey-wimey means a younger River ever runs into the Doctor after this point, and how the lack of her parents would be explained.

So, that's that until Christmas, I suppose. iView so conveniently didn't include the mini-trailer for the episode, so I had to chase it down on the BBC website. It was very short, and I am mildly disappointed they didn't tell use the episode name.

But I can wait. And now the ficcers and vidders take charge of things.
Current Mood: sadsad

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From:notalwaysweak
Date:September 30th, 2012 11:30 am (UTC)
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I cried hideously. Danny did as well; his exact reaction was, 'Fuck you, Moffat, he was my favourite companion!'
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From:drakyndra
Date:September 30th, 2012 02:17 pm (UTC)
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Those heartstrings, they got horribly tugged.

I still like it more than Rose or Donna's departures, though.
From:khallandra
Date:September 30th, 2012 12:54 pm (UTC)
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iView so conveniently didn't include the mini-trailer
Ah that reminds me to find it - it didn't work on my tablet - yay it worked on my PC!
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From:drakyndra
Date:September 30th, 2012 02:19 pm (UTC)
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Huzzah! I was grumpy at iView over that.
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From:robotlove
Date:October 1st, 2012 08:29 am (UTC)
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I am curious to know what conclusions you came to with regards to your Geass characters in the GoT-verse discussion (though I probably wouldn't be able to follow it for long given how I've not watched GoT yet).
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From:drakyndra
Date:October 1st, 2012 09:25 am (UTC)
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Well, if you've read the books you might also be able to figure it out, so yeah.

But full on comparisons were Shirley as Sansa, and Kallen as Dany, which both work pretty well. Lelouch is probably a Lannister, while Schneizel is more of a Tyrell - just as much of a schemer, but much more subtle and low-key behind the scenes, with a lot less bombast and ego. Suzaku is probably a Stark, though he does sometimes work as later books Jaime (minus the incest). That said, it's mostly because both Suzaku and Jaime are riffs off the Lancelot mythology.
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From:robotlove
Date:October 1st, 2012 10:40 am (UTC)
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HAHA i haven't even read the books, tbh! So I don't follow, but I was just wondering about the general nature of your discussion ;D I see now that it was more about comparing/swapping roles than trying to see what they'd do if they were in said universe (yes?). I know about the loltwincest though.

Yina has been trying to get me into GoT and I have promised her I will pick it up over the winter vacation.
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From:drakyndra
Date:October 1st, 2012 10:47 am (UTC)
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To be honest "what they'd do" in the GoT universe would end up being pretty similar to canon, given it's medieval fantasy and Code Geass is sort of sci-fi/fantasy in which Britannia has some pretty medieval knights and princesses influence.

So, Suzaku as a knight, Lelouch as a calculation rebellious leader, Shirley as innocent noblewoman, Euphie as the princess striving to be worth more than an arranged marriage, and the Black Knights and Britannian knights and royalty just the same.
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From:yinake
Date:October 5th, 2012 02:36 am (UTC)
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WASN'T THAT CONVO TOTALLY WORTH IT THO?

/uses best icon just for you
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From:drakyndra
Date:October 5th, 2012 03:24 am (UTC)
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Oh God, what is that icon even?
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From:yinake
Date:October 5th, 2012 03:28 am (UTC)
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does it lie tho
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From:yinake
Date:October 5th, 2012 03:29 am (UTC)
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From:drakyndra
Date:October 5th, 2012 03:34 am (UTC)
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It's his expression in that icon that makes it so disturbing. (That GIF is a much better face).
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From:yinake
Date:October 5th, 2012 03:41 am (UTC)
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LOL the expression is what makes the icon hilarious, though. Robb's raep fais. XD

My favorite Madden icons:





YES HE ACTUALLY SAYS THAT.
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From:drakyndra
Date:October 5th, 2012 03:45 am (UTC)
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Where is that last one even from?
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From:yinake
Date:October 5th, 2012 03:51 am (UTC)
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HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WESvRhwRXEY

ROBB STARK IS GAY AND A BOTTOM. My life is complete.
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From:yinake
Date:October 5th, 2012 03:54 am (UTC)
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KING IN THE REAR.
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From:drakyndra
Date:October 5th, 2012 03:57 am (UTC)
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Well, that was definitely something.

And I saw that line in the YouTube comments.
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From:yinake
Date:October 5th, 2012 04:02 am (UTC)
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I know, best comment in this comment thread, lol.

Also, this video has more funny gay Robb: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlJpuVKnsjQ

watch from 5:10 for failrobb.

MY LIFE. IT IS COMPLETE.
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From:drakyndra
Date:October 5th, 2012 04:13 am (UTC)
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YouTube comments: Not always full of fail.

Okay, that was some impressive fail.
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From:yinake
Date:October 5th, 2012 04:15 am (UTC)
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ISN'T HE HOT THOUGH

AND AND AND AND HIS ACCENT
WHEN HE SAYS
'SORRIES' 'YOU KNOW WHEN SUMTHING WROANG BUT U WANTT IT ANYWEAY'

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DAT ACCENT SJDSNIJCKNAEWILFJHADSLKCJNASEILFRHAESILC

ROBB ME OFF MY (non-existent) HYMEN FOREVER.
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From:yinake
Date:October 5th, 2012 04:24 am (UTC)
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I apologize this man has some strange effects on me ok ok ok
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From:drakyndra
Date:October 5th, 2012 04:27 am (UTC)
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Maybe I'll just leave you an imaginary!Robb to have some alone time together, okay?
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From:yinake
Date:October 5th, 2012 04:30 am (UTC)
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You are mocking me!



No one understands us!
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From:drakyndra
Date:October 5th, 2012 04:37 am (UTC)
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Truly, your love is a special one.
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From:yinake
Date:October 5th, 2012 04:38 am (UTC)
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LMAO!

Come on MSN, Chris is there!
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From:drakyndra
Date:October 5th, 2012 04:40 am (UTC)
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And done.

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