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June 28th, 2006
 | 11:27 pm - Editing, you fiend!
An interesting post I dug up on the OG just today from Steven Moffatt, about that episode, and one of it's more controversial factors. Namely, a cut line where a few people have commented they thought a line was needed.
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We sort of assumed you'd all remember about emergency program one - that the Doctor has made provision for Rose in the event of his non-return. For ages there was a line about it - Rose said to Mickey, "The Tardis will always take me home" - but we cut it, thinking it cut across her devastation at the loss of the Doctor. It's still sorta kinda implied - the Doctor asks "How long did you wait?" which clearly means there was an alternative - but we should probably have kept that line in.
Anyway. The intent was never that he abandoned them - just that he leapt towards the woman in greater danger.
Steven Moffat
Look who was right after all.
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Do you feel like gloating now? Because I kinda do. ![[User Picture]](https://l-userpic.livejournal.com/74504796/447538) | | From: |  cedara |
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| Date: | June 28th, 2006 01:41 pm (UTC) |
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Hee... this is good. I sort of want to go to certain people who moaned about it then, and shove this in their face.
I like it when my interpretation gets supported by the writer. Wasn't that clear from "Always wait five and a half hours", more or less? Implying that Rose could have chosen to leave after, say four and a half. I never really got into any fannish analysis of Girl Inna Fireplace because I loved it so, and didn't want to think about it too much, but that's kind of what I assumed. But it's nice to hear it from teh Moff. He trapped himself, not them. YAY! Well, I always got that too, but certain places on the net *cough**TWoP*cough* are utterly outraged by this episodes, outraged I tell you, because of how the Doctor went and left Rose and Mickey to die.
So the fact that they are, you know, wrong amuses me. So.... it's not really an abandonment in time and space but just an abandonment.. hee, that's good ^^ It's abandoning them, but with the ability to get home again.
Sort of like leaving someone at a train station, but with a ticket. Actually catching the train is up to them, but they have the ability to do so at any time. It's me and you and the metaphors again, right? ^^
Actually it never felt like an abandonment to me, the fact that they simply waited instead of yelling at the poor console again kind of implied they weren't that scared to be stranded on the Ship of the Damned.
Rose's Emo Tear nevertheless shows that it still felt like being at an airport, getting a quick hug and the car keys from your hubby because he's going to join the Peace Corps with a sexy blonde... I always thought that there was an emergency programme or something and that was why Mickey and Rose never went back into the TARDIS in case it activated and sent them home or sommat. And you were right. Hurrah! Isn't that wonderful? | From: | aervir |
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| Date: | June 28th, 2006 09:34 pm (UTC) |
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Oh, that's really interesting. I did have a (minor) problem with the fact that no emergency protocol or similar plan was mentioned. So I'm glad to hear that it was implied (or at least supposed to be implied) that the Doctor wouldn't just leave two companions stranded in the middle of nowhere without any concern for that fact.
Pity that the line was dropped, though. It would have saved a lot of the fanwanking. Since even Moffatt seems a bit sad it was dropped, you aren't alone there. But the intention was never for true abandonment. Heh. So obviously this caused a bit of wank when the episode aired? The Emergency Protocol was the first thing I thought of when Mickey said that they couldn't fly the Tardis without him.
In the little fanfic section of my brain, I was actually composing a story in which they did eventually go back home in the Tardis (via the emergency protocol), and the Doctor was there when they got back (or showed up soon after, and presuming nothing in an ordinary earth life would have caused him to regenerate over the 250 or so years, he'd arguable look the same, though his suit and coat might not have made it in one piece. :)).
And he would/could have been there, because when they went back to 2006/2007, time on earth would have continued moving so that it actually WAS 2006/7. In fact, no matter what year they'd returned to, 1750/60 had passed and moved forward on its own - slow time. The difference is, he would have lived (domestic! ACK!) those 200+ years on the 'slow path' while for Rose and Mickey it would have been minutes or hours, because that's just how time works. Though God knows what he would have changed or influenced in that time (the temptation to see and/or help his former selves or UNIT or even see Sarah Jane) while he waited. *g*
Let's just say this episode was highly divisive. And it got really venomous in place - the fallout from this is what put me off the TWoP forums for good (which is bizarre, because it was incredibly popular at the OG)
But I very much like your plot-bunny - I'd certainly read it if you were ever to write that. It's an idea I have seen very briefly touched on, not really examined in a huge amount of detail. Though I do have the fabulous mental image of him running into his past selves and/or companions and all that allthe time. |
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