September 30th, 2006
|10:01 pm - And yet more stuffs|
So, I have worked out what it is that gave me that blood blister on my foot yesterday. There's a broken zip on the cushion next to my bed. How did I work this out, you ask.
Well, I stepped on it. Again.
I hope I didn't get blood on the carpet.
Teh Links List is almost done - I'll have it up later tonight. It's rather shorter than the last (being out of the inital post-Doomsday boom), and appears to contain a worryingly high proportion of Martha fics. The advantage of an as yet impossible to be OOC character, I suppose.
Oh, and there are two more sections of the bad_penny thing up.
Also, on a vaguely meta note: "if [x] was here now they wouldn't love this version, how could they love this version?" is quite possibly the stupidest bit of Doctor vs Doctor character criticism I have ever come across.
Newsflash: There are plenty of truly horrible people - in fiction and in the Real World - who have been loved fiercely by others. And there are plenty of good characters, of good people who are alone, who receive little love. Love is not a question of worthiness. Someone's love is not a prize given to the most deserving.
And yet, time after time, I've seen this used in the Nine versus Ten thing. Sometimes the criticism is derived from it "Well, Rose/Jack/the TARDIS can't possibly love Ten as much as Nine, so he can't possibly be as good." Love is not a measuring stick. Love is not controlled. Love is not like money, that you can hand out to worthy. Love is not a promotion, that is handed out to the most deserving. More love does not make you a better person. Not being loved does not make you a worse person.
And from the other side, I'm pretty certain you've heard the quote, "Love is blind." We do not choose who we love, it's not something that can be controlled. People love others for all sorts of daft reasons, others who might be utter saints - or horrific monsters. You can't help loving who you do (though how one acts on this is a different topic). If X does not love Ten as much as Nine it does not mean Ten is any less good. It means that for whatever reason - the randomness of chance, the interplay of personalities, the specific points in life of both characters - that X does not love Ten as much. Nothing more.
Certain fans ought to keep that in mind, too: Just because you dislike a character/episode/series doesn't mean it is bad. It just means that aspects of said thing are less desirable to you. Like I said, Love isn't a measuring stick, you can't use it to quantify things.
Of course, there's also the "I don't like Ten as much as Nine, so [insert chracter of choice] won't love them as much" argument. Um, do people who state this realize how obvious they are making their character as fan-avatar here? Shock, horror, your opinions are not the characters, okay? Just because you like a character less doesn't mean that your favourite will, too. You are not that character.
This may explain my dislike of bashing and agenda fics. Because they are so obviously the author's bias instead of the actual canon. It's making the characters act how you think they should act, rather than how they would actually act.
*determinedly does not go off on a tangent wondering about certain Nine/Rose fen with a dislike of S2!Rose (who also never liked Ten) comes from genuine dislike of the canon, or just residual anger that Rose showed love for a character they thought wasn't worthy of her ala Harmonians bitching about the degraded Hermione in HBP, who incidentally showed attraction to Ron*
Dislike an incarnation of the Doctor as much as you will, but for Christ's sake, stop trying to lay your opinion on the other characters - or even thinking that romantic love matters in how good a character is. And if your main criticism of a certain character is that"x could never love them", then you really ought to take a good look at the fandom you are in.
As I always say, when it comes to (this) fandom, shipping is the icing, not the blooming cake. It's an extra, not the entire point. If all you can focus on is the icing, you might want to remember too much can do some bad things for health.
Current Mood: grumpy
|Date:||September 30th, 2006 02:01 pm (UTC)|| |
I have a blister on my foot, too. Not a blood blister, but still ouchie.
Shall we be blister sisters?
Yes this whole comment was so I could make that rhyme. I am sad.
I am very familiar with blisters (ex-Ballet, you know - those pointe shoes are nasty on the feet). Doesn't mean I like them much, though.
Lulz blister sisters.
K-9 could never love Nine.
Physically or metaphorically?
He could do it physically, but Nine wouldn't impress him much spiritually.
And why might that be? *is intrigued at the logic behind this?
|Date:||September 30th, 2006 06:17 pm (UTC)|| |
Maybe I look at the whole Nine v Ten thing in a different way, but I really can't see how one can be better than the other when they're the same person albeit in different wrapping. *cries*
I can understand how one can like one more than the other, but one be better than another? Um, not really.
Some people take identification too far - I know for a fact I've read "Rose was OOC, because I would never do that, and Rose is just like me."
Incidentally, I've only ever read this for shippy related stuff. Funny, that. Which is possibly where the tangent I am not going to go off on came from.
Well said! I don't often see people online (or off, come to think of it) who view the concept of love with intelligence and, if I do say so myself, a fair bit of logic. (I often confuse people by telling them these concepts are not mutually exclusive) I'm a fan of the Doctor no matter what incarnation he takes, so I'm often annoyed with some of the truly pathetic reasons people come up with not to like that Doctor vs. this Doctor. Or WORSE, they get the character of the Doctor mixed up with the actor who portrayed him, which is both annoying and sad. Or sometimes they'll start insisting that this companion loved that Doctor more than this one because "OMG that version was, liek, SO much better!!1 p.s. they were totally shagging each other" It gets old. Fast. But then I'm somewhat unusual in that I expect others to have rational reasons behind any likes or dislikes they may have. =D
Oh, and major points on the excellent icing/cake metaphor as well. ^_~ I'm becoming irritated with all the people who forget that Doctor Who isn't just about who's (possibly) in love with whom, and whether or not they're having random sex all over the TARDIS. (If you want to exercise all your uber-emotional romance/sex fantasies via television, that's what American programming is for! =P)
See, I have no problems with disliking a certain Doctor, or even disliking a certain Doctor-companion interaction. But using this interaction - which invariably comes back to shipping in some quarters - as a reason why a Doctor is bad (rather than just less to your taste) is just stupid. It comes back to the "I don't like it" =/= bad thing people seem to forget.
And getting the actor mixed up with the character is never a good thing - I mean, in the HP fandom, the actress who played Cho got hate mail before she ever hit the screen, just because she got to kiss Harry, OH NOES!
Crack metaphors are a sort of running theme with my meta, as people on my flist can tell you. And, yeah, romance isn't the sole thing in characterisation. At times I get a bit sick of looking for good character fics, and only being able to find shippy stuff. *is fond of genfic*
At the risk of sounding completely ignorant and maybe even a little thick... what's genfic?
Genfic = general fiction. Non-ship based fanfiction.
Cool! All I'm ever able to find are drabbles (which can be fun) and smut. (which is never fun - at least not for me) You wouldn't happen to have any communities or websites you could direct me to, do you? =D