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August 14th, 2007

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09:00 pm - Fandom remains a strange, strange place... IN YOUR PANTS!
In a move that is shocking probably no-one, there seems to be yet more silliness going around in Doctor Who fandom.

However, rather than wank, we seem to have attracted an outraged "Think of the children!" type, who is utterly shocked, shocked that people are publicly writing "immoral and degenerate writings" about a children's show. Obviously, she's never seen the Harry Potter fandom.

The thing that has captured my interest the most is how on earth our Helen Lovejoy (namely nyssaisbest) managed to stumble across the fic in question.

See, the writer of said fics, persiflage_1 isn't exactly a BNF. She's one of the more prolific Ten/Martha writers, admittedly, but that just makes her a prolific member of a minority ship. (Yes, it's a minority ship. One of the larger minority ships, but still one that's a minority) As far as I am aware she doesn't post her fics anywhere other than LJ. She doesn't have a huge flist.

So, as far as I'm aware, the only awareness of her fics is for the 900-odd members of lifeonmartha, any members of smith_n_jones who aren't also in LoM, and whoever's read the relevent who_daily post. In total, that's what, 1000-2000 people? Tiny compared to the internet.

So, why persiflage_1? If someone has a problem with adult fic, why not go after one of the BNFs? Or one of the adult fics on the Teaspoon, which is easily googlable, and just this week has had fics with overt sexual references in the title? Why, when she has the entire of the internet and Doctor Who fandom to be outraged by, is the one person she's decided to make her stand against "filth" to, a prolific but not hugely known author in small corner of fandom?

I just don't get it.

(I'll also add that the apparent "real" name nyssaisbest - Susan Costello - is terribly reminiscent of a certain Torchwood character, which does nothing to ease suspicions of someone sockpuppeting)

Oh fandom. *shakes head*

On the subject of fandom, that Doctor/Martha ship manifesto I am doing is due in in a week. Just a reminder if there are any recs, quotes, ideas or whatever else you want me to include, here's the post to let me know.

*This post title was brought to you by the exceedingly silly conversations I had over dinner today, in which we amused ourselves by seeing just how much more hilarious everything became when "...IN YOUR PANTS!" was affixed on the end of sentences.
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Date:August 14th, 2007 11:46 am (UTC)
I think it was jo_mako who said she google searched for ages and no-one's journal came up. It's just impossible for someone to 'stumble' across this fic.

This all smells v fishy.
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Date:August 14th, 2007 11:51 am (UTC)
I am sure it is possible to just stumble across the fic, but I really would love to hear Madam's explanation for exactly how she found it. Thus far I've seen very little fact, and a lot of outrage and offendedness.
Date:August 14th, 2007 11:51 am (UTC)
It also seems odd that our crusader for decency is complaining about having "received emails". For one thing, that's just not normal behaviour.

For another, there's no public email listed in her profile.

She may, of course, be confusing emails with comment notifications, but it seems ... odd. "The h8ers are disagreeing with me by email!"
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Date:August 14th, 2007 12:00 pm (UTC)
I didn't find that one at all confusing, mainly because I can see how the whole comment notification thing - especially since the froms are listed as the LJ user.

Sounded like a fairly obvious newbie mistake (or at east newbie wording) to make.

Though the inversion of the lurkers support me in email cliche does amuse.
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Date:August 14th, 2007 11:56 am (UTC)
I asked if persiflage_1 got any IP's from the troll, but like I had feared, she wasn't tracking them at the time.

This entire thing is just fishy and highly suspicious. Like you said, there's no reason to target this author, because she isn't well known yet, nor does she have an impressive flist. And she's never had any run-ins with anyone that I know of.

While this might be a one off thing, as maybe the troll/sock puppet wanted to try out this shit on some who might not respond back, and got a hell of a surprise in return from fandom. But we might also see this sock trying on more BNF names in the near future.

This is so completely stupid.
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Date:August 14th, 2007 12:05 pm (UTC)
I do wonder if we shall ever hear from her again - I find it surprising that someone so outraged by "filth" has found only one person in fandom to be offended by. Surely there are others to be worked up about - then again, going by their LJ they haven't joined any comms or friended anyone, and yet still seems to expect responses to their (rather... interesting) posts.

I will admit that it's sort of hilarious in light of the whole Strikethrough/Boldthrough/Anti-childporn thing. Someone getting worked up by two adults having vanilla sex seems so... quaint.
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Date:August 14th, 2007 01:17 pm (UTC)
I vote sockpuppet/troll. And a particularly unimaginative one at that. *rolls eyes*

who is utterly shocked, shocked that people are publicly writing "immoral and degenerate writings" about a children's show. Obviously, she's never seen the Harry Potter fandom.

This cracked me up this morning. *snickers*
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Date:August 14th, 2007 01:22 pm (UTC)
Well, it's true. No-one brings the dirtybadwrong and batshit lunacy in porn quite like Harry Potter. Which is great when you want crack or diversity in your porn, but it's completely and utterly daft if you step back and take an outside look at things.
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Date:August 14th, 2007 01:19 pm (UTC)
nyssaisbest is quite obviously a troll, for the vry srs reason that no one would seriously say that Nyssa is best. I hope.
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Date:August 14th, 2007 01:28 pm (UTC)
It has aways bugged me that behind Nyssa, there is a freaking awesome emotional character concept - that her Father's face has been stolen by the Master, by this hugely evil person - and it was barely even touched upon. So much could have been done with her, and it wasn't.

Also, given the Doctor's Gallifrey angst, the fact the Master (still wearing her Dad's face) went and destroyed her entire freaking planet and Nyssa barey reacted looks really bizarre in retrospect.
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Date:August 14th, 2007 01:38 pm (UTC)

People need to leave my fandoms alone.

Just when the HP drama starts to die down the DW drama pics up.

There is NOTHING wrong with DW porn! Hello? Even in the show there is subtext. Lots of it!

[User Picture]
Date:August 14th, 2007 01:58 pm (UTC)
Two fandoms, both alike in wankiness
In fair LiveJournal, where we lay our scene...

They never stop, do they?

Correction: Even on the show there is phonesex.
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Date:August 15th, 2007 06:18 pm (UTC)
Poor persiflage_1 :(
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Date:August 16th, 2007 01:52 am (UTC)
Sock, sock, sockity sock-like sock. With extra special sockiness on top.

(namely nyssaisbest)

Oh, yeah, that's not going to fuel anyone's Nyssa hate, not at all. Whatever this person is trying to do, here, I wouldn't be surprised if persiflage_1 is just an innocent bystander in the wrong place at the wrong time.

And if it's a batchipper trying to cause trouble for Team Martha or whatever, then she's going about it all wrong; she should've called herself marthaisbest and attacked all the most well-known batchipper fic. Have we learned nothing from MsScribe? Jeez!
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Date:August 16th, 2007 06:55 am (UTC)
I just had one thought when I saw the Nyssa thing - namely that nostalgia_lj is a very vocal hater of Nyssa. Which is another reason the name made me wonder.

And obviously this is a n00b in the ways of sockpuppeting (if, indeed, it is a sock).

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