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January 24th, 2008


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04:37 pm - My Thoughts on Torchwood (Like thoughts on yaoi, only... no wait, exactly like thoughts on yaoi)
I has now seen Torchwood episode two!

...Or rather, I saw it several ours ago, but then wandered up to the cafe to have lunch. And read newspapers.

Anyhoo, my thoughts under the cut. Mostly character rather than plot related.


Overall thoughts on the episode:

It wasn't as cracktastic or fanficcy - or for that matter fun - as last weeks. Which isn't to say it was bad - the plot held together quite well (with a few gaping exceptions, Y HALO THAR HACKING WHEN THE PHONES ARE ALL DOWN), and generally speaking it was better than the majority of last season's episodes. I just didn't enjoy it as much as last weeks.

I think the key fact in the series differences is that the Team... actually feels like a team. They might snark but they still work together, and there seems to be a genuine fondness between all of them. See Gwen and Ianto walking arm in arm and comparing it to the Jack/Gwen vs Jack/Ianto ship wars, and see who looks more mature.

Everyone had their jobs to do, everyone had lines and a role to play. Even Ianto's relative uselessness was made up for by the fact he got all the best lines. In any case, it appears that Jack leaving (and thus forcing the rest to work together) seems to have done them a world of good. They actually feel competent now.

Some individual character thoughts:

Beth: I think the guest actress did a great job here as playing someone genuinely confused and shit-scared. The penny dropped for me pretty early in her last conversation with Gwen about what she was about to do - I remembered Gwen telling her about Torchwood's kill or be killed policy, and it was only a short step from there to Suicide by Torchwood, especially given how she must have felt about killing hubby. Poor girl.

I am starting to wonder about Rusty's inter-racial relationship fetish, though.

Tosh: Not a huge role, but being clever and calm and competent. And possibly mentally writing RPS between Jack and that cop at the burglary scene.

Owen: I am thinking that S2 Owen is how the production team had hoped Owen would be all along - an arse, but an entertaining and likable arse. Pity the whole Date Rape "joke" had to go and taint things in the first series.

Gwen: My opinion of Gwen has changed more than any other characters, I think. I started off liking her, got annoyed with her in the middle of S1, and being the contrary type I am, started to like her again when all the Gwen hate was everywhere. Am currently at a state of like again, mainly because Gwen as good cop to Jack's bad works well given you know she means it.

Ianto: Completely stole every scene he was in. Also, had all the best lines. Oh, Ianto, you crack me up. And I like you so much more when you are being snarky than when you are emo.

Jack: As much as the idea of Jack being the most brutal one of the gang seems to make sense, given what he's seen and done and lived through, it doesn't change the fact that, sorry to say, John Barrowman can't play "Intimidating tough guy" to save his life. IMO, of course. He does good quiet angst or snarky, is brilliant at humorous and flirty and all, but the tough guy schtick just made me mildly embarrassed. Liked the plan with the truck and all, mind.

Next week looks good, though. And Tosh-centric, which will be nice


In other fandom news, Doctor Who is on Fandom Wank again. However, in a shocking twist, this has absolutely nothing to do with Rose. Wonders never cease.
Current Mood: enthralledentertained

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From:in_the_end
Date:January 24th, 2008 07:28 am (UTC)
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lidi made this one.
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From:drakyndra
Date:January 24th, 2008 07:47 am (UTC)
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Neat. Though I shall see what other ones pop up before I download any.
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From:hacked2death
Date:January 24th, 2008 11:04 am (UTC)
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I love the bit where Ianto is pretending to be zapped in the chair and even Owen is shaking his head at him...
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From:drakyndra
Date:January 24th, 2008 11:15 am (UTC)
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When even Owen thinks you're being inappropriate... well, then you've gone too far.
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From:yattara
Date:January 24th, 2008 02:46 pm (UTC)
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When even Owen thinks you're being inappropriate...

And we thought that day would never come...
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From:drakyndra
Date:January 24th, 2008 03:02 pm (UTC)
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Wonders never cease.
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From:koshiroryuu
Date:January 25th, 2008 12:13 am (UTC)
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Y HALO THAR HACKING WHEN THE PHONES ARE ALL DOWN

Eh, I figure they've got a fiber connection or something, the phones being down wouldn't actually bring down their network connection unless it was a DSL line or something, and I can believe that Torchwood would have something way bigger than that.

I am starting to wonder about Rusty's inter-racial relationship fetish, though.

Me, too. I used to get all excited when I saw interracial relationships in Who, because I was like "FINALLY! w0Ot!" but now I can't help but wonder if Rusty can do anything else. Even a relationship where they're two different minorities, just something where it doesn't have to involve someone white, throw me a bone here! And I liked Beth a lot, and her actress was wonderful, but I'd really like it if a secondary character of color could live through an entire episode someday.

Mostly, it was pretty good, though. You could see a lot of it coming from a mile off (like running the guy over with the car, which I loved) but that didn't stop it from being pretty good. And I really love the new Ianto, King of Snark. He is beautiful. And a lovely foil for Owen. And he even snarked on Jack, which was love.

He does good quiet angst or snarky, is brilliant at humorous and flirty and all, but the tough guy schtick just made me mildly embarrassed.

S'truth, yo.
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From:drakyndra
Date:January 25th, 2008 02:45 am (UTC)
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True, as plotholes go, it didn't bother me hugely. But it was a bit weird when I looked back on it.

The inter-racial thing gives me uncomfortable feelings about Rusty, and just how revolutionary he thinks he is being.

But I think I agree on your last points: It was fairly good, if predictable. And snarky Ianto is win.
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From:koshiroryuu
Date:January 25th, 2008 03:36 am (UTC)
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The inter-racial thing gives me uncomfortable feelings about Rusty, and just how revolutionary he thinks he is being.

*adds it to the list*

*uses interracial OTP icon anyway* (I can't help shipping them, they're just so cute.)

*needs Ianto icons*
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From:drakyndra
Date:January 25th, 2008 03:41 am (UTC)
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Does it count as an interracial relationship when it's not intended to be romantic?

I need new Torchwood icons, the ones I currently have are all old. Or Marthacentric.
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From:koshiroryuu
Date:January 25th, 2008 03:46 am (UTC)
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Hmm, good question. And they're not all co-dependent or unrequited or anything, and also they're both alive, so no, I don't think that counts in RustyWorld, actually.

All my Torchwood icons seem to be making fun of it. Or Marthacentric. That either says a lot about me or a lot about Torchwood, or possibly both.
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From:drakyndra
Date:January 25th, 2008 03:56 am (UTC)
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They're cute, but I'd be iffy on actually shipping them until they're a few years older, personally.

I have Jack, Ianto and Martha icons. Most of which are a bit crappy, actually. I need more animated ones.
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From:koshiroryuu
Date:January 25th, 2008 04:41 am (UTC)
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I have made an animated one for the new series! It doesn't seem to break my pattern of making fun, but I do it with love, I swear.
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From:drakyndra
Date:January 25th, 2008 04:42 am (UTC)
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Okay, that's amusing.
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From:koshiroryuu
Date:January 25th, 2008 04:49 am (UTC)
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I've decided to call him Basil in all my fic from now on, I think. I'm going to ship Basil/Captain Spike, just for fun.
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From:drakyndra
Date:January 25th, 2008 10:19 am (UTC)
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Crack ships FTW!

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