November 24th, 2008
|11:35 pm - *insert Bondage pun here*|
So, I had a rather interesting weekend. If by interesting, I mean, the Parentals both decided to invade Melbourne.
Dad was down on Friday for a Rowing regatta - we went out and had Thai for dinner (I'm still trying to work out just what he does with his time when he isn't learning Thai or coaching rowing). And then Mum was down on Sunday in order to pick The Sister up from College, since she's finished for the year.
We had Greek for dinner, and then went and saw James Bond. (I'd say Quantum of Solace, but the word Quantum always makes me think of Discworld. I'm sad like that).
I quite liked it, actually. Even the song has grown on me.
I mean, I can sort of get where some of the criticism is coming from - if you like your Bond's quippy and as the Badass Male Fantasy figure that a lot of the older films were, it mightn't appeal so much. Bond may do some cool, badass stuff, but he doesn't seem to have a lot of fun doing it.
But it struck me as quite a good film, regardless (if possibly a bit too reliant on being a sequel - a couple of points I had to do a mental double take to try and remember just what happened in Casino Royale) I can't comment on the Bourne comparison, since I've never seen any of those films, but it does strike as strange that this movie was being criticised for being too much like... a well regarded, successful franchise of the same genre.
Though Daniel Craig mantains his badass status, now with added BrokenTM, I found my favourite stuff about the movie was never him alone, but in how he interacted with people. There was the badass interactions - eavesdropping at the Opera; the friendly "regretting how we came to this" interactions - Mathis and Felix; but the two most interesting I found were with M and Camille.
M because it was so very, well, motherly. I mean, the concern between them was way beyond just that of business, they took threats to one another so very personally, and even when they talked in terms of duty and capability and all that, there was always this underlying vibe of M wanting Bond to be okay in as a person and Bond wanting to get this done to make her proud. Which is not something I'd noticed much in Bond movies before.
As for Camille... Basically, I adored the fact that the Bond-Camille whatever wasn't a sexual relationship. Because they came off to me as having a distinct brother-sister thing going on, and making that sexual would seem to... cheapen it, sort of. I mean, aside from the obvious fact that'd be Bond using her to deal with hidden Vesper issues. But they were both badasses, both so very broken, both driven to do whatever it took to get their revenge (Bond with killing all the minions in a way that made M >:( at him; Camille sleeping with a man she didn't like after witnessing the rape and murder of her mother and sister).
Slight digression here: How incredibly depressing is the state of fandom that when a badass female character with a sexuality hasn't been raped in the past, it strikes me as good move. Avk.
Back on track: Camille and Bond were just so very similiar. Not to mention that the whole "you never learn better than when you are teaching someone" thing seemed to come into play with Bond mentoring Camille on revenge. It sort of took him telling her about how little it really mattered before he realised it in regards for Vesper.
...Okay, I just plain think Camille is awesome. I like to assume that now she's got her revenge deal out of the way she's still floating around the world being a sort of female Bond. Badassing it up, being sneaky and charming, and that she and Bond occasionally run into each other, have a few drinks, talk about what's up in their lives, share any pertinent mission-based information, and then cheerfully separate once more.
I read somewhere Camille may be back for more Bond films.
Okay, it was on Wiki. I hope this is true. I also hope they don't do so just to kill her off. (Or make her sleep with Bond. Sisterly badass, plz)
It also helps that I would kill to look like Olga Kurylenko.
But yes, I rather liked the film. There were other things I liked too - the few moments of humour, the gag in Fields having an epicly cheesy Bond Girl name and refusing to share - but they were the major ones.
Aside from that, other fannish input I have been taking in since the end of exams include several more of the Haruhi Suzumiya novels - either I'm liking the later short stories more, or I just find it more pleasant to read ones that the anime hasn't given away the entire plot for - and also the second episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold, which continues to be glorious, glorious crack.
It had gorillas riding pterodactyls. You cannot deny the ridiculously Silver Age-y awesomeness of that.
Current Mood: busy
The producers have said the character of Camille will be back, though not necessarily in the next film. She was indeed an excellent character and it was good she and Bond didn't sleep together. Although that quick kiss at the end was a beautiful combination of desperate and touching.
The relationships between characters were fascinating. God I hate what they did to Mathis - almost teared up in a JAMES BOND FILM! Seriously. I can't wait to see the Felix and James friendship develop even further in the future like it does in the books.
Can't understand the criticism of QOS at all really.
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But yays, more Camille! That would make me happy (so long as she doesn't have anything horrible happen, which being Bond, has a high probability).
But yes, it was horrible what happened to poor Mathis. And yeah, I hope Felix develops into Bond's foreign friend in the business. God knows they could both use some friends.
As far as I've seen, a lot of the criticisms I've seen are from people who wanted something a little more light and fun. A more quippy Bond, you know?
I'd really hope they didn't bring her back just to kill her. Besides, that would be too much like Vesper anyway. I guess, though, if she came back they would have to sleep together... If I wasn't already interested in watching his friendship with Felix develop (as it does so well in the books), I'd like to see Bond and Camille have a similar working friendship.
I know QOS is a lot more serious than Casino Royale, but as you said - why criticise it for being Bourne-like? That makes no sense. And he's still James Bond. Some reviews have gone so far as to say they wanted it like the older Bond films - argh! The producers can't win.
Which is why I hope QOS makes as much money as CR - or more - and then the producers will keep experimenting to see what works. No question the next film would have been lighter anyway. I expect Bond and Felix to be working together a lot.
That would be just depressing, really.
It really is a can't win situation. Mainly, I suspect, because people who like Bond seem to go into two categories: The ones who like the quippy lighter Bond, and those who like the more serious take. Now, I like all Bonds, quippy or serious, but I can see how if you have an obvious preference for one way, the films going the other wouldn't appeal.
CR got away with it because it was a bit lighter, because it was good, and because it was different to the criticised direction the films had been headed. QoS doesn't have the shiny new value, I suppose.
But it's on the road to make a bucketload of money (I've been obsessively watching Box Office numbers all year. The week after TDK was hilarious, all those freaking out stats geeks), and yeah, the next will be lighter.