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October 24th, 2010
 | 11:03 pm - I did laundry and grocery shopping today. That's productive, right?
Wow, I haven't updated for an entire week. Shows how exciting my life has been lately. Anyone care to link me to anything interesting going on online/in the news/whatever?
Anyway, last night I went to  altheas and lena_supercat's place for a House Cooling party. (Like a housewarming, but in reverse!) Which meant meeting up for a whole lot of people I haven't seen in quite a while. And I seem to have stuff on for the next few Saturdays, so at least I'll have things on on weekends. Plus there's a few things I need to get sorted during the week. I may be going to a Halloween party next weekend...
And for some entertainment value: LOL, Snapewank time again. The Snapefen - no, sorry, Severusmoms - are at it again. This time: claiming he's still alive, really!
And a Kirk/Spock fanvid of great lulz.
Current Mood:  amused
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OT, but what's with the joke that DW killed Snarry? I still don't really get it, even though I've seen DW. I mean, I guess you could compare Rose/Doctor to Snarry in some weird, twisted way, but... not really, apart from the huge age difference and - that's it, really.
Don't get me started on grudgey Snapefen and their various counterparts. Almost everyone in fandom probably had some idea or another that was completely debunked by JK Rowling. It's one thing to be disappointed with the way things were written - a lot of people hated the epilogue, and while I personally really liked it, I don't think that consensus is wanky, because it's an opinion about how the books ended. But wanting your character to be written the way you envisioned him or her is.
Edited at 2010-10-24 12:43 pm (UTC) Read all about it here! Or the short version: Some Snarry fans got wanked. It wasn't all that interesting, so half the comments ended up on a tangent about Doctor Who. A Snarry archive was deleted, and the Snarry fans blamed FW. Which had been, you know, talking about Doctor Who. Yeah, there's a big difference between not liking a particular aspect of a story, and the epic grudge some people seem to have over it. The Snapefen (and the Harmonians, and other similar groups) seem so personally offended by things not going their way. Or the short version: Some Snarry fans got wanked. It wasn't all that interesting, so half the comments ended up on a tangent about Doctor Who. A Snarry archive was deleted, and the Snarry fans blamed FW. Which had been, you know, talking about Doctor Who.
Ahhh. :P
Yeah, there's a big difference between not liking a particular aspect of a story, and the epic grudge some people seem to have over it. The Snapefen (and the Harmonians, and other similar groups) seem so personally offended by things not going their way.
I don't get it at all, really. Maybe it's easy for me to say because most of my ships were canon, but that doesn't mean I liked everything that happened. I just don't see the point in being angry over it - especially more than three years later!
Of course, you also have the reverse of that, where some fans think the books are perfect and get angry if you disagree with anything in them. I'm in the middle - there's stuff I didn't like, and I really don't think the books are perfect, but I don't hate them, and I don't have anything against JK Rowling personally. She seems like a nice lady (with a snarky side I approve of) who happened to gain an insanely large following, some of whom decided what should happen in every paragraph.
Edited at 2010-10-24 02:29 pm (UTC) I may have some fondness for the phrase because I was the one who originally said it.
I just don't see the point in being angry over it - especially more than three years later!
Well, yes. Generally speaking, if I have major issues with a fandom I would leave it, and certainly wouldn't be around three years later. Generally I don't stick around unless I genuinely like something, even if it is flawed.
I think I am with you on my opinions of the books: They aren't perfect but there's nothing I find hugely wrong with them. And JKR seems to have a sense of humour about herself which some of these fans are lacking. I think I am with you on my opinions of the books: They aren't perfect but there's nothing I find hugely wrong with them. And JKR seems to have a sense of humour about herself which some of these fans are lacking.
Exactly. And that's what bugs me the most when people call her a vile b*tch and stuff - she isn't any more perfect than her books, but she's a strong woman who has done a lot of stuff her critics never have. They can write an entire book while living in poverty raising an infant, go on to become rich but still remain giving, always advocating for causes and talking not about her success as a writer at a graduation, but her time working for Amnesty International, and then we'll talk about what a lazy, stupid, vile b*tch she is. Their criticisms always come off as so terribly petty. Especially when most of them just seem to motivated by not getting what they wanted in canon rather than anything else. Yeah. And I also feel like a lot of people projected other... let's say "tropes" on her. They wanted Snape and/or Draco to be more of a Spike (pre-season seven)/Jayne type, who everyone knew was neither here nor there from the very beginning, not someone whose intentions everyone merely doubted. And I think many people even hoped to see the Dark Side's "good points," because sometimes storylines do go there. Even if you take pre-series Torchwood, they were essentially an organization with good intentions that went about fighting evil in rather evil ways themselves. That is not what JK Rowling wanted for her Death Eaters. And even those shows had red lines between morally ambiguous and all-out evil, though admittedly some characters crossed the line and had to bounce back - or not.
Wow, this thread got long. :P Hey, early on Spike was bad. He was just the lesser evil to Angelus and co. But yes, the Death Eaters were too blatantly a racist organisation in a children's book to ever get their "good points", and Snape and the Malfoys did get a somewhat sympathetic portrayal. But they weren't ~*~cool~*~ about it: Lot closer to pathetic, really. No links. I've been doing in person sport fandom stuff in Melbourne this week. Fun to learn about. :) Doing what sport fandom stuff in Melbourne? Talking to sport people in the AFL and at Victoria University. Going to see if tomorrow I can't maybe squeeze in an appointment that day to see the MCG Library. Hard to do the AFL as a dissertation topic when you're up in Canberra. Need to come down to Melbourne to do it on occassion. :) Which AFL people? And you have only yourself to blame for the Canberraness. AFL people as in league AFL people. The Essendon people were out of town. The Richmond Tigers guy and I just haven't managed to connect. (Ditto with the NRL Melbourne Storm. Seriously want to ask them some questions.) And the other guy I know who I think does some work for maybe the Demons... I might have done an open mouth, insert foot routine.
Canberra is love. Melbourne is ZOMG! BIG! Chadstone Mall is like a casino: Designed to show you all the shiny things you can't afford at stores and making it impossible for you to escape. (But they have a Gap. And that makes life good even if their intimates section didn't really exist. Woe!) My (second) secondary school was in Geelong, just down the road from Kardinia Park, so I've actually met some of the Geelong players. Not that they'd know me or anything, but a couple trained the girls footy team for a while. And Matthew Scarlett's wife was in my English class.
Yeah, Chadstone is big. I don't normally go out that way (because I can just go to the CBD for shops), but I've been there a few times. I've seen Harry O'Brien at a conference before. That's probably the closest I've come to meeting players. (Did see the someone from AFL's Player Development at the Melbourne Sport Bookshop. That was cool.) My interest is what they do in social media and most of the time, it just makes the whole knowing players and what is actually going on less relevant. :)
I was told Chadstone was the biggest mall in Australia/New Zealand so I wanted to see it. It was just overwhelming. Been in Canberra a bit too long. :) I heard it was the biggest mall in the Southern Hemisphere, actually, though I'm not sure how much truth there is to that. Yay, Snapewank! Oh, how I've missed it. It's one of those things that is always entertaining. |
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